tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3218524178230712938.post297444795521303156..comments2024-03-28T17:35:45.759-07:00Comments on modeling the SP: Waybills, Part 31: empty private carsTony Thompsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11593061828601275378noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3218524178230712938.post-63898792121183749552014-04-01T13:33:26.832-07:002014-04-01T13:33:26.832-07:00Thanks, Andy. But I think your statement about Emp...Thanks, Andy. But I think your statement about Empty Car Bills only used for RR-owned cars is not true for all railroads. I know that many private tank cars were returned empty with a regular freight waybill, in part to identify the previous cargo for safety reasons, and have written as much in previous posts. But equally certainly, private cars could be and were moved empty with Empty Car Bills in some situations.<br /><br />You are certainly right that an agent could prepare either an Empty Car Bill or a Waybill for an empty car being picked up, but I have been told that many empties like this simply were returned to the next yard, where a yard clerk or car distributor had instructions on file, and would determine the needed routing and make the paperwork. That's why I talked about model yard jobs in this regard.<br />Tony ThompsonTony Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11593061828601275378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3218524178230712938.post-70558380854717078952014-04-01T12:39:00.660-07:002014-04-01T12:39:00.660-07:00Tony, great post on a topic that many of us modele...Tony, great post on a topic that many of us modelers that use waybills should see. I have a nugget regarding this post. In the second paragraph under the image, you noted that this document would be given by the consignee to the station agent, and then the conductor. The first half is correct, but instead of giving this document to the conductor, the agent would create a waybill covering the empty movement (not an empty slip bill as you mention in the last paragraph; those went with empty RR-owned cars). The document you show is similar to a bill of lading...but since there is no lading in this case, it has a different name. It would be used to create a waybill, then filed. <br />Note that the form references Car Service Rule 13, which provides for the return of an empty private car via reverse route in the absence of this form being presented to the railroad. I believe that many private cars returned empty on that Rule (accompanied by a waybill), and this form was used to send an empty to a point different than its loaded origin for loading at a different facility, cleaning, or repair.<br />Andy L.Andy L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03825225117038475408noreply@blogger.com