tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3218524178230712938.post696046396067639938..comments2024-03-28T12:37:29.643-07:00Comments on modeling the SP: Modeling details, SP cabooses, 1953Tony Thompsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11593061828601275378noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3218524178230712938.post-22253462823893756852011-10-13T11:55:11.745-07:002011-10-13T11:55:11.745-07:00Eddie, I don't know that ANY of the C-40-1 and...Eddie, I don't know that ANY of the C-40-1 and -3 cars ever got vermillion ends. The only possibility might be during the tests of caboose end color in 1954, but that color trial was for ALUMINUM ends, not red. I have not found records of cars repainted during the 1954 trial into red ends, but I'll admit I could not prove it never happened.<br /><br />As for C-30-4 and C-30-5, all delivered with vermillion ends, as far as I know, they kept those end colors until the advent of orange ends in October 1955.<br />Tony ThompsonTony Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11593061828601275378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3218524178230712938.post-68251589762313281562011-10-10T13:19:49.085-07:002011-10-10T13:19:49.085-07:00Tony,
How many of the C-40-1 & C-40-3 class g...Tony,<br /><br />How many of the C-40-1 & C-40-3 class get red ends and how long did they last? <br /><br />Also how long did the C-30-4 keep their red ends till?<br /><br />~EddieEddie P. Sarberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17986681274993505147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3218524178230712938.post-62076440010298716672011-05-09T16:17:38.974-07:002011-05-09T16:17:38.974-07:00Well said, Tom. Your position on corrections mirro...Well said, Tom. Your position on corrections mirrors exactly what researchers in engineering and science would say: contradictions and corrections are part of advancing understanding, and the last thing you would want, would be for anyone to repress such challenges.<br /><br />I eagerly await more corrections and extensions of my posts (grin).<br />Tony ThompsonTony Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11593061828601275378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3218524178230712938.post-14519697915307322622011-05-04T21:48:50.948-07:002011-05-04T21:48:50.948-07:00Enzo,
It turns out that it takes a while to feel c...Enzo,<br />It turns out that it takes a while to feel comfortable with all you have learned about the SP or any other topic. I started back in the late 80's to get serious in my research and only now am feeling comfortable. I suspect that the internet is helping us all as we develop our own "level of comfort" with the topics. I really didn't really feel comfortable until I had I conducted enough research that I could present an article and have people realize that they had just learned something new about a topic they felt they knew pretty well. If you are interested in the Espee in the 1890's, I feel pretty comfortable with that era. I have enjoyed Tony's blog because it has validated many of the approaches I have taken in my efforts. <br />My favorite comment still remains that I welcome anyone challenging my conclusions because they are going to present new facts that I don't know if they can prove me wrong. I will then change my thoughts on the subject, because they have provided information to me that I wasn't aware previously. It is a definite win-win situation.<br /><br />Tom VanWormerCM Auditorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03171947423186789232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3218524178230712938.post-14308496290267224142011-05-03T00:43:07.837-07:002011-05-03T00:43:07.837-07:00OK.. It's MY fault, and I stand correct! Thank...OK.. It's MY fault, and I stand correct! Thanks,Tony.<br />I must confess I've all your car books but only have appreciate the surface of the argument: my first point was to acquire familiarity with Espee story and steams, now it's time for cars.Enzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12769994478785851106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3218524178230712938.post-75260564498297641692011-05-02T16:52:49.037-07:002011-05-02T16:52:49.037-07:00The lettering drawing, of which I included one cor...The lettering drawing, of which I included one corner in this post, showed the white-paint requirement starting in 1948. SP, like most railroads, issued drawings to all shops to show size and placement of all lettering, and locations of any painted area different from the body color. I included a number of these lettering diagrams in my books to serve as reference points.<br /><br />The orange end story came to light in its entirety, unfortunately, right AFTER the caboose book was published. It's contained in Volume 3, in Appendix 1, "Additions to Vol. 2." The basic story is that after experiments with both vermillion and aluminum ends, Daylight Orange was selected. That color for caboose ends became standard on October 12, 1955, after the time I model. It's something I regret, because the orange ends look terrific on a model, but to move that far forward in my modeling period would lose virtually all steam power. You gotta make choices like this in any modeling situation!<br />Tony ThompsonTony Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11593061828601275378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3218524178230712938.post-31456410724537949182011-05-02T14:24:14.682-07:002011-05-02T14:24:14.682-07:00Tony, at cost to repeat me...absolutely great blog...Tony, at cost to repeat me...absolutely great blog, with informative details. Keep it running, "we" follow you!<br />One question: you said "This is the most common arrangement seen in photos after 1948 (when the white trim was introduced)".... this is based on a "rule" or a bulletin or what? In fact my question can be more general: are such paint standards defined by SP and written somewhere?<br />Like the end of the body in Dayligth orange, when it become effective? I've not found in your book, except single car picture caption. It's my fault?Enzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12769994478785851106noreply@blogger.com